Should We Be Teaching Religion to Children? – The Jim Jefferies Show

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My quest to unite
the world’s religionsmay have failed, but
I’m still waiting on someone
to tell me why religion
even exists at all.
Someone’s got to sell it
to this atheist.
And when it comes
to selling God,
no one does it like
the Christians.
They’ve got missionaries
hassling people about Jesus
around the globe.So, I sat down with one,
and he started his sales pitch
by telling me what his life
would look like
if there was no God.I would be a pirate.
If there’s no — If God doesn’t exist,
I’m a pirate. -A pirate?
-Why not? You do like you do.
You just — One-night stands. You murder people.
You do whatever you want. You’re on a boat
with a whole lot of men. How many one-night stands
are there? So, that’s what you would do?
See, I don’t believe in God, and I don’t believe
in rape, as well. I don’t believe you
should murder people. -I don’t believe you should —
-Why? Why not? ‘Cause it’s wrong.
Why would I take another — Wrong by who? If you’re
just evolved sludge,
it doesn’t matter. -I still have morals.
-Whose morals are right? No, there are right morals
and wrong morals. Maybe, maybe not. Don’t be a dick to people. Why not be one? -Because it’s being a dick.
-Well, so what? All right, so you’re
saying that Christianity is stopping people
from doing bad things. That’s right.So, if religion
keeps people in line,
shouldn’tallcriminals
be atheists?
Well, according to
the United Nations,
countries with the highest
murder rates in the world
are also some of
the most religious.
And the least murdery places,like Sweden, Japan, and Norway,
have loads of non-believers.
If you’re in the business
of running a church,
these are not good stats.They need new asses in seats.When they can’t reach adults,
they aim younger.
-Man: This is Jesus.
-Hey-oh! Why does Christianity
market itself to kids? Whether you’re talking
about religion or whether you’re talking
about Happy Meals, you want to get kids
when they’re young so that they’ll use it forever
and ever and ever and ever. My son, at 4, has to pledge
to the flag under one God. -He has to use those words.
Children: “…under God.” He doesn’t even know
about God yet. I haven’t mentioned it to him.
Why would I? Why should he
have to do that? That seems to be, to me,
something that is a rule, something that you
have to be made to do. There was a man.
He was called Noah. Noah put two of each animal
onto a great, big boat. Who believes this happened? Wrong. Children shouldn’t learn
about God straight away because you can’t join
the army at a young age because your brain
is not well-developed. You can’t smoke cigarettes
or drink alcohol or something before you
reach a certain age because you’re not ready. Except for
your eternal life, which we tell children
about from age 2 and this is
your decision. It’s a seed,
like everything. -Is there a hell?
-Yes. Now, what happens
to children who aren’t privileged
to be born into America? So, a simple example — Australia, where Christianity
is substantially less. [ Choir vocalizing ] It’s just a very
remarkable thing that children who grow up
in a Christian society are lucky enough to be born
with the right God to go to the right heaven,
but if you’re born into a Muslim society,
then you’re going to hell because you don’t believe
in the right god and they believe
in vice versa. Why are those people
disadvantaged? Well, we send missionaries
all over the world, and there are Christians in
every culture of the world. -Yes.
-Muslim ones keep it low-down because they don’t
want to be killed for
changing their religion, but when the truth of the Gospel
gets ahold of them and they actually realize
the reality of it and the truth of it and they
believe it, they’re converted. What I’m about to say here,
I’m not trying to poke fun. Sure. The shooting in Las Vegas,
where was God? -In heaven. Here.
-Why does he let that happen? Why does he let
children get cancer? Well, it’s one of the biggest
questions there is. You have a good God, and you have a fallen world
that does bad things. Mm-hmm. You think that guy was
a churchgoing Christian that blasted all those people? I do not think that. I know there was many
churchgoing Christians who were shot and killed. It was a country-music show. Right,
and the next second, they opened their eyes in
heaven, and they’re facing God. And their children are
parentless down here, crying, and their lives
are ruined. You know, I don’t have all the
answers for all those things that are very difficult
and we struggle with, but the fact is, this is not
the best of all possible worlds. This is the pathtothat.Nah!
Still not buying it.
“There is no answer”
is not an answer!
Look, religious friends.
I’ll remind you again.
There’s been an awful lot
of invading, killing, bombing,
burning, raping, and shaming
done in the name of God.
So, if you really want
to convince me,
try cutting that shit out.I’d even consider going
to heaven and hanging out
with a bunch of
boring Christians.
On one condition.Are we in our best state? Am I, like,
Jim Jefferies 2002, when I was, like, full head
of hair, I was like 25. I was rocking it out,
right? Or am I
Jim Jefferies now? Ugh…Bit fat. Better teeth, sure. You’re gonna be your best,
your absolute best. Whatever God had
intended for you, that’s what it will be. So, what I’m hearing from you
is another inch and a half. [ Laughter ]

 

100 Responses

  1. Marc Whitakay

    June 6, 2019 11:47 am

    You will NOT tell me what I can and cant teach my child. ever. You will not force your world view on everyone. Oh yes, there is a lot of evil done in the name of God but not done by God. Evil is done by mankind. Why would you blame God for the evil that man does? Seems silly really. If you commit murder do you blame your biological father for allowing you to do it? come on man that logic doesnt work atheists. We do evil not God.

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  2. Radu G

    June 7, 2019 10:16 pm

    Religion stops some stupid people from doing bad things. It also Incurrages some other
    stupid people to do bad things.

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  3. Simetry

    June 8, 2019 7:51 am

    Yes, because it has played such a long and important role in human society and decision making.

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  4. liquidbraino

    June 9, 2019 2:47 am

    1:05 Wait, religion is STOPPING people from doing bad things???…
    You mean like torture?: http://oi63.tinypic.com/2q16umc.jpg

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  5. liquidbraino

    June 9, 2019 3:51 am

    Teaching religion to children is literally causing self inflicted brain damage:
    https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/study-finds-link-between-brain-damage-and-religious-fundamentalism
    Or you could call it "self directed neuroplasticity": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcrGlUHlu4M&t=135s

    Bottom line is this: neurons that fire together, wire together. This is how habits are formed. Teaching children to NOT think; to NOT question things & to accept the idea of talking donkeys (Numbers 22:30); with no questions asked, is literally causing damage to a brain area called the "Ventromedial Prefrontal Cortex" which is the part of the brain responsible for the cognitive flexibility that enables normal, rational people to challenge old beliefs based on new evidence. There are only two things necessary for self directed neuroplasticity to take place 1. Repetition 2. Focus.

    If you want to brainwash somebody you just have them repeat the same lie to themselves from the day their born until they're old enough to think for themselves and by the time they're old enough to think for themselves they won't be able to because the damage has already been done. Their brain is now hardwired for obedience without question – they're finally ready to join the military and follow orders without question, even if it means killing people and turning a blind eye to your reasons for doing it because they've been trained since birth to turn a blind eye to the truth. Christians hate the truth because the truth conflicts with their bible and it conflicts with their conservative political beliefs… which just like their religion is all about profits. American Christianity alone brings in over $114.9 Billion dollars per year: https://www.christiantoday.com/article/american-churches-receive-record-114-9-b-donations-in-2014-report/57240.htm

    That's enough money to end death by starvation globally in one single day but instead of feeding the starving children Christian conservatives are dropping bombs on them for HUGE profits: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/according-to-his-most-r-firing-59-missiles-into-syria/

    We will never have peace on earth while religions still exist. Good thing Christianity is going to be extinct by the year 2067: https://www.inquisitr.com/2170856/christianity-to-be-extinct-by-2067-says-new-government-report/

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  6. Karstens Creations

    June 10, 2019 7:48 pm

    Priest: I don't have all the answers…

    NONE.
    You have NONE of the answers.

    You have BULLSHIT and NONSENSE that appeals to people, which you REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BELIEVE are 'answers'…

    Thing is…NO amount of BELIEF makes something a FACT.

    What you have there are EXCUSES.

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  7. Edward Yamada

    June 10, 2019 11:14 pm

    My purgatory is heaven. Give me the drugs and loose women, the psychopaths, not those boring Stepford wives and their eunuch husbands. What can a psychopath do to you if you’re already dead?!

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  8. Steven Kozlosky

    June 12, 2019 5:14 pm

    "Without god, I'm a pirate!" This passes as a moral compass? "Don't be a dick," is far more indicative of an internal set of values than "rape and murder because, why not?" Holy shit! Religion. Poisons. Everything.

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  9. K C

    June 12, 2019 7:51 pm

    Wrong . Satan is locked in " heaven" today and does not return to earth until …… uffff . And the Easter bunny and Santa. Retards

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  10. Matthew Dobbs

    June 13, 2019 11:46 am

    The pastor is a pratt! Right is right and wrong is wrong,it doesn't take the brains of an archbishop to work that out. I am a person of faith but I do not believe in the indoctrination of children in anything. Values yes, concepts yes, history yes (including religion), but religion should be an informed choice.

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  11. Etrigan

    June 14, 2019 7:25 am

    I'm a Christian and if you don't want to pray to God don't you could pray to super Mario for all I care super Mario doesn't try to change the way you are it's just a fun game to play depending on who you are of course but religion isn't fun and it's the old women in churches that are so judgmental that ruins church for a lot of people.

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  12. Etrigan

    June 14, 2019 7:30 am

    And for your Christian assholes out there in the era of history in Japan if you were caught praying to God you were executed on the spot and you had no trial. You don't think I'm telling the truth look up underground Christians. They actually have hollowed-out Buddha statues so does that mean that God's going to punish them because they put his cross on the back of a different idol just because they didn't want to die?

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  13. Chris teh Zambambo

    June 15, 2019 6:22 pm

    Ah, religion, made by the only sentient animals on Earth who constantly express arrogant supremacy over free thought, only to shackle themselves with something that nature never intended, "morals", when someone's called an "animal", that should be a compliment, because they're tapping into what Earth and evolution intended, "society", like any other human concepts, are merely just another noise like from any other animal, as a nihilist, I believe everything came from nothing and everything will become nothing eventually

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  14. Jonny B

    June 16, 2019 11:57 pm

    God religion is such a crock of shit. Always has been. Bunxh of bastards just as clueless as anyone else yet they have all the answers (yet… Don't) including the most pressing, where we go when we die if anywhere, where we came from and what's the point of all this.

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  15. Jimmi K

    June 17, 2019 10:51 pm

    If there was no god he'd be a pirate?

    Well he has a beard and loves seamen so he's halfway there!

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  16. Caito Jones

    June 18, 2019 1:03 pm

    Coming from someone who believes in God, there is a special place in hell for people who indoctrinate their children into something before the child has the ability to understand what they’re being indoctrinated into. If you can’t legally consent to having sex or using tobacco/alcohol products, you can’t consent to being brainwashed into believing whatever religion you happened to be born into.

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  17. Strauss Thall

    June 19, 2019 1:21 pm

    They should be teaching Scientology and Pastafarianism in schools. They’re just as devoid of any useful knowledge as any religion.

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  18. Akalanka Edirisinghe

    June 21, 2019 7:14 pm

    Jim is correct. But you can't put Buddhism in the same group, as the rest of these religions. Buddhism denies the existence of any God(s) or creationism. Contrary to what most non-buddhists suppose, Buddha is not a divine figure or a prophet. He is just a man teaching the path to freedom from suffering, by meditating upon the nature of the life, world and even our perceptions. As far as I know, he's the only religious teacher who demanded his followers not to accept ANYTHING without questioning, just because he said it (in Kālāma sutra). And said that they should follow his path and decide if its correct for themselves.
    I'm an atheist myself, and don't accept many things that come in Buddha's teachings. And I also agree that, it shouldn't be taught to children. But that's because it's more of a philosophy than a religion, and children simply cannot understand it (even most adults who claim to be "Buddhists by birth" cannot!)

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  19. The Prestige

    June 23, 2019 12:07 pm

    "The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the sun, in which they put a man called Christ in the place of the sun, and pay him the adoration originally payed to the sun.” ― Thomas Paine
    Google "jesus is metaphor for the sun" to learn more.

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  20. IN A FLASH

    June 24, 2019 6:14 am

    Jim you played the wrong card! You shoul've never spoken of religion, 'cause that starts wars!

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  21. IN A FLASH

    June 24, 2019 6:15 am

    But seriously though, how many versions of the bible are there? there should only be one!

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  22. Michael Deem

    June 24, 2019 9:42 pm

    My family never went to church, nor spoke of God. Religion wasn't taught in my school, yet at 5 years old I knew God. I have no mental illness. It can't be explained, unless it's the 'God gene'. I walk with God; however, I've read several versions of the bible, tanach, and quran and have concluded that organized religion is a self-serving, or mind control, program invented to use fear to control the masses. God is for peace, love, and harmony; and, provides a solace in times of grief. The rest are stories to explain a world without organized science. Why organized? Because, science is the observation of facts and proof through repetition. So, being able to tell that something will kill you only needs a few examples before we naturally presume fault. Organized science is the scientific method placed in to action with the purpose of proving, or disproving, a theory (presumption). But, whether you call on God or go through life with intent of peace it's equal. Attacking God is seen as an affront to people of faith in God; yet, what you are really asking for is organized religion to be exposed and prohibited in secular schools.

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  23. Chloe Batchelor

    June 26, 2019 8:34 pm

    Are morals made-up? Of course but that's not the question to be asking. The right question is whether or not morals have a role to play in cultivating a healthy society. And the answer is yes because they help promote healthy behaviors that lead to a healthy society but why should people adhere to morals if god doesn't give them to us? Why should we listen to any cultures or societies morals? If a societies morals are good for promoting a healthy life for everyone that's the only motivation you need and if you want to murder, rape, etc then you are what we would call a criminal.

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  24. Mondo Shredder

    June 28, 2019 3:29 pm

    This guy kind of looks like a homicidal prate and sex offender even with that cross hanging around his neck.

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  25. Plerp Plerp

    June 29, 2019 4:25 am

    More people have been murdered in the name of religion than anything else.

    All small children tend to have invisible imaginary friends. Essentially, religious wars are two groups of people killing each other because they think their "invisible friend" is better than the others'. It is quite absurd. Still, the whole human race isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed so it's not so surprising. Humans will kill each other for any reason you can think of.

    Humans invented religion because they simply don't accept their own mortality. There is an obsession with living forever and ever. So the promise of heaven, which is the only unique selling point of religion, appeals to the ego.

    Scientists are constantly looking into ways of stopping the aging process and cheating death. If they succeed, then what will be the point of believing in heaven or an afterlife?🤔

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  26. paul Haarmann

    July 5, 2019 12:56 pm

    How does that priest not even have an answer to the theodizee-question or whatever you call it in english(I'm german) (why is there suffering on earth if God exists) if even I as a 17 year old atheist could answer that question. Didn't he get any religious education?

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  27. PUNKISINTHEDETAILS

    July 8, 2019 8:47 pm

    You got shot at an early age, you are off to paradise CONGRATULATIONS. Golden Ticket.

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  28. CCPants X

    July 8, 2019 10:44 pm

    Listening to the guy with the beard makes me sad. If all it takes for you to not be a criminal is to have to fear for your afterlife you are just not a good person.
    Btw in the middleages people that commited a sin could just give money to the church to attone for it. I hope that guy never hears about that.

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  29. viva libertas ergo vivite libertatem

    July 10, 2019 3:04 pm

    I am christian and don't know what this priest smoked before coming on this show.
    1. Of all. The bible has many passages that could be seen as indicators that people from different religions may go to heaven. Doing the will of god doesn't mean you have to call him by that name.
    2. The bible often states that it is our heart that truely defines us. So if you need the threat of suffering to be a good human being you are not christian in your heart.
    3. The question of suffering. And that is not easy to answer. Suffering as caused by humans is easily explained by freedom of will. It seems that in god's eyes a world where we are free to do good as well as evil is better than a world where we are slaves incapable of own thought. I guess suffering by nature is there to test our belief. However god suffers with us. He suffers with each and everyone of us in every moment. So there must truely be a reason for it. He came down om earth living a human life, suffering through the most gruesome death and god was with jesus in his death, showing us that he is with us in our sorrow. I don't know why it is that everytime I hear an american preacher it seems so utterly unreflected

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  30. TheLewisma

    July 11, 2019 11:43 pm

    I used to be really religious as a child, got that put into my head because of catholic school.

    But I ended up hating the church at a really young age, because I always took Christianity as only the New Testament, since Jesus said there was only one commandment “love your neighbor” thereby negating everything that came before that; dude didn’t have a problem hanging out with the pariahs of his time, from lepers to prostitutes…. yet all of these cunts use every single bible verse to do whatever the fuck they please. Fuck most Christians

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  31. John Doe

    July 12, 2019 6:13 pm

    I liked
    Edit: just outlaw religious propagating and church liked structures where hierarchy pays no tax to force children to get maimed ( peepees mutilated ) or just lied to without allowing the parents to kick the asses of clergy for saying stupid shit,… And of course raping, coercing others to rape, blackmail ( give to the church or to the priest or you burn in hell ), converting to extremism and terrorist acts or holding a town hall honor rape festival.
    ( The last one was made up, but you didn't notice did you, you religious zelots )

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  32. Drew Shourd

    July 21, 2019 11:20 pm

    I love all people, respect all people, but Christians are narrow minded idiots, like trapped rats in a maze with no end, spewing the same dogma that their 'out dated' religion has been spewing for centuries. Hold fast, Christ filled egos…your stand to be right eventually….NOT!

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  33. Eisdax

    July 25, 2019 5:20 pm

    Hehe,… the latest missionary who became famous got killed by indigenous people with arrows,…. Natural selection at it's finest.

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  34. P S

    July 28, 2019 10:05 am

    5:12 That look on the preacher's face…

    And I'm sorry, but saying kids get cancer because we live in a bad world is stupid. The logical fallacies this man espouses are truly beyond idiotic. Don't get me wrong–I've heard half-decent arguments in favour of religion. These are not those.

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  35. Nicholas Hansen

    July 29, 2019 4:25 am

    If someone who has the internal desire to murder or rape reads a fairy tale that makes him want to not murder or rape, by all means keep reading that fairy tale. I'll even buy you a new copy after you wear out the first one. Doesn't mean that fairy tale is an accurate depiction of reality or even that it's better than therapy and rehabilitation programs. If you have violent urges, even ones which are mitigated by religious beliefs, maybe also go talk to a psychologist.

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  36. Geo Dez

    August 3, 2019 1:12 pm

    Sure! Grow up heathen and commit suicide in your teens. Or even worse, kill innocent people cus you are empty inside.

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  37. Geo Dez

    August 3, 2019 1:15 pm

    All of you here don't know God cus you have had way to easy in your over sheltered meaningless lives. But one day you won't be so lucky and then in the darkness you will find yourself searching for God.

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  38. Geo Dez

    August 3, 2019 1:22 pm

    Jim is a funny guy. And that's all. If you take him for his word you are an idiot. I bet you anything he prays quietly at night for his son's well being.

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  39. Iskandar Soren

    August 12, 2019 1:19 pm

    Doesn't have the answer to why god would allow cancer to exist, but somehow just knows the origin and purpose of the universe. Seems legit.

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  40. Paul Blue

    August 15, 2019 2:55 pm

    I wouldn’t like to be raped. As an empathetic person, I wouldn’t want them to be raped (or to rape them) either. Done. Fuck this guy with his non objective morals

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  41. Zeus

    August 18, 2019 9:25 am

    Lol.. even though none of the Gospel writers ever met jesus, authors are all anonymous but still Christians think of them like DNA results or something.

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  42. cca220v

    August 22, 2019 12:40 pm

    religion is not stopping people indeed – but, you are basing your self governing rules on what some religion told you. or your parents told you … but they got the ideeas from a religion at some point down the line.
    looks like "the chicken and the egg" problem – you want to treat people good because you have a concept of what good is and you were taught that because religion introduced it to your ancestors …

    maybe 'good' would have appeared on its own but now you cant argue that, the events happened already… you need another timeline 😉

    at some point in time "good" was sacrificing people so they get to speak to their god so good is relative to what direction the society has evolved

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  43. Nikolai Sikes

    August 23, 2019 8:39 pm

    Yep. Religion has always been used to control the masses. There may be some truth to any and all religions, but it has always been used to keep people in line. I, like Jim, do not need the fear of hell and eternal damnation to keep me from murdering and pillaging (the crusades).

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  44. Davey Houston

    August 24, 2019 7:53 pm

    His point ( the priest) is morality is subjective not doing something because its wrong is nonesense because we do not all agree killing or even murder is wrong or even rape or homophobic actions or stoned women like calling it honor killing btw having bad things happen is the consequence of free will

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  45. thenatbro reincarnated

    August 26, 2019 10:24 pm

    This pisses me off so bad. This dipshit priest is essentially saying that the only reason he's not raping and murdering is because God told him not to do that. What kind of backwater retarded fuckwits even think like that? You don't need religion to find out if things are right or wrong, those things are taught into you, and you instinctively know most of them. Get off your high horse and stop being so ignorant.

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  46. Sergey Khilchenko

    August 27, 2019 10:55 pm

    “If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward then, brother, that person is a piece of shit.” – Rust Cohle.

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  47. Kearstin Ivory

    August 29, 2019 4:56 am

    Well I'm not a follower of any organized religion, and I really value being able to rape, steal and murder as much as I want… which is not the fuck at all. Lol smh

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  48. Son Brimmer

    August 31, 2019 6:47 pm

    Oh man, that’s so frustrating to hear the argument that the only reason to not be a murdering rapist, is fear of punishment from God. It’s such a weak position, and speaks volumes about your moral character.

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  49. Hque

    September 5, 2019 9:58 pm

    He would become a pirate if there is no God. What kind of answer is that? Let me tell you from the Islamic perspective.

    1. Referring to cosmological arguments (by the philosophers) (for the absence of God).

    a) Cosmological way, this whole life cannot come from nothing to something. There must be something created by an omnipotent and omniscient being who has power, knowledge and no life expectancy to bring this universe into existence.

    b) Philosophical way, we need to identify this universe is a necessary being or a contingent being.
    i. Necessary being = simply a being that possesses necessary existence
    PHILOSOPHY

    (of a concept, statement, etc.) inevitably resulting from the nature of things, so that the contrary is impossible.

    PHILOSOPHY

    (of an agent) having no independent volition.

    ii. Contingent being = a being such that if it exists, it could have not-existed or could cease to exist.
    PHILOSOPHY

    the absence of necessity; the fact of being so without having to be so.

    In the Islamic perspective, we believe this whole life is a contingent being because we are dependent on something and has a life expectancy. Example, we are depending on foods and drinks so we are not starving and die. Same as the other beings like animals, plants, microorganisms, planets, stars, galaxies, etc. These beings can die and depend. But why these contingent beings or contingency are necessary to exist? Why this is necessary to happen? What is the purpose? Because there must be something necessary to cause this contingency into existence and reality. How much deeper will you think, you cannot imagine that this life happens for a very long time ago before the big bang. In fact, we are incapability to find out about this life. There must be a factory in this life. However, Allah told us that we need to follow the guidance that we know from Him. Allah already made perfect guidance and easy for us. The guidance that we are capability to follow.

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