Mustard Seed Faith

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“And Jesus said, Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” Whoa.. I did it! I actually moved a mountain and put it down somewhere else! All it took was a small amount of faith just like Jesus said! Oh gimme a break. That’s not what that scripture actually means. Oh.. I thought it was pretty straightforward. It’s not talking about moving actual mountains. It’s about overcoming problems in your life. If you have faith, then God can help you through difficult circumstances. Don’t you still need a lot of money for that Africa mission trip you’re going on? Well yeah, but we’re believing God that He’ll provide for us. But you’re supposed to be leaving tomorrow, right? Um yeah, but that’s ok, God will make a way. God, I pray in faith that You will work a miracle in Jim’s life. I ask that You would send all the money he needs right now so that he can go to do Your will in Africa. I ask this in the name of Jesus, amen. I appreciate your prayers brother, thank you. But you know, that’s just not how God works. But Jesus said we can ask Him for anything and He will give it. I think He even said it a few times.. Well it just doesn’t work like that. Look! You see, God usually uses *people* to do His will on earth. But look! For instance, if you’re in need, then God can speak to someone near you so that they can provide a miracle for you. When did Jesus say that? Hi Katie! Jim, I’m glad I caught you! I know you’re going away tomorrow, so I wanted to give you this. It’s twenty dollars to help pay for your trip. I know it’s not much, but I felt the Lord leading me. Praise God, thank you so much Katie! God bless Jim, I gotta go! See, now that’s how God answers prayer! How, by making His miracles so vague and ambiguous that no one can actually tell the difference? Any outsider would think you’re simply relying on other people’s good will and then calling that a miracle. Oh no, it’s because I had a dream last week that someone would give me twenty dollars for the trip! Praise God! God is such a miracle working God, thank you Jesus! God is so good.

 

91 Responses

  1. Barbarian Brain

    April 17, 2013 11:40 pm

    Who can measure the size of an abstract concept like faith? For all we know you can move a mountain with faith as big as a seed but how do you figure out the size of faith? It's like asking for terror the size of an elephant or a sphere of joy that is precisely 24 angstroms in diameter.

    Maybe faith is like energy in e=mc2 and you need a hell of a lot of faith to get a small sized object? Then you can detonate your faith seed to nuclear explode your way through a mountain?

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  2. Barbarian Brain

    April 17, 2013 11:41 pm

    If someone actually DID move a mountain with their faith, how many Christians do you reckon would take it "metaphorically."

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  3. TheCrescentKnight

    April 17, 2013 11:55 pm

    That was what I was thinking as well. Maybe having faith the size of a muster seed is actually a rather impressive task, like the most devout popes in all of Christian history had only faith the size of a grain of sand.

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  4. Cephas Atheos

    April 18, 2013 12:01 am

    Yep, that's IT! You've cracked it! Faith – as a "force" – is infinitely weak. So you need an infinite amount to do even the smallest useful or helpful thing.

    So you and your church group PRAY for getting $2000 for your trip to annoy African kids, but you GET $20.

    Seems legit!

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  5. GuineaPigDan

    April 18, 2013 12:06 am

    I read former Pope Benedict's book God and the World a few months ago and he gave the same explanation in regards to this verse, that it's about overcoming great obstacles. What does it say about the state of apologetics when even the pope of all people has to rely on trite answers to questions of faith?

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  6. Barbarian Brain

    April 18, 2013 12:19 am

    I wonder if the shape of your faith matters too? Mine is trapezoid.

    Perhaps the LHC will detect the decay products of faith?

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  7. Barbarian Brain

    April 18, 2013 12:22 am

    Ideology and money can do a lot of things despite only existing in our minds. Metaphorically, faith can crash planes into buildings and stone adulteresses to death so maybe it can also move mountains?

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  8. cynt123able

    April 18, 2013 12:39 am

    You should do the one on being careful what you pray for. It's like you pray for something wonderful and you get something dredful instead.

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  9. jiberish001

    April 18, 2013 1:52 am

    And if he had not gotten the money, he would find some reason to believe that god didn't want him to go, and then praise him all the same. Thus using another logical fallacy to reenforce the first.

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  10. rationalmuscle

    April 18, 2013 4:48 am

    // Who can measure the size of an abstract concept like faith? //

    I can.

    Faith = 0.

    Pretty simple. ; )

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  11. mehja1

    April 18, 2013 5:42 am

    I was waiting for the headline:
    "Flying mountain crushes entire county – Horrible loss of lives!"
    (Prayer service for the victims will be held at Nonsuch Church at 7 pm)

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  12. Friedrich Wilhelm Viktor Albert

    April 18, 2013 12:05 pm

    The number of believers divided by number of catastrophic events, it should equal the amount of faith that has been given by believers, then translate this to a sphere (representing Earth), and you should have a numerical amount of faith on this planet. But I am assuming that it will not be perfect,as earth itself is not a perfect sphere. But, what do I know, right? This is probably wrong anyways.

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  13. Discern4

    April 18, 2013 12:26 pm

    They've had 2000 years to refine their arguments. All these excuses make perfect sense to them. Growing up in christianity, you recognize the disconnect between what the bible says and the excuses that christians make….but only until you're fully indoctrinated/converted, then you buy into the BS reasoning as well.

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  14. Discern4

    April 18, 2013 12:30 pm

    He probably would've said God is testing him to see whether he'll remain faithful despite the financial struggle.

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  15. Jaybird196

    April 18, 2013 12:33 pm

    Something that strikes me as funny is Jesus says the bit about mustard seed faith and nothing being impossible for us, but much earlier he, in the form of Yahweh, bemoaned the idea of things not being impossible to humans because they were building a damned tower to get to Heaven.

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  16. Dùbhghlas MacDùbhghlas

    April 18, 2013 3:04 pm

    I like the D4 dice they can be use as weapon like caltrops. Keeps people from sneaking up on you when you sleep.

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  17. Ian Rivers

    April 18, 2013 5:26 pm

    The conversation between the two characters was frighteningly like how my old pentecostal church talked to each other. Anyway, didn't Jesus say in the gospels, that the mustard seed was the smallest of all seeds? He got that wrong! An orchid seed is much smaller!

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  18. Gael Murphy

    April 18, 2013 6:22 pm

    You say that god answers prayer by working through people. Let's just cut out the middle man.

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  19. Prplfox

    April 19, 2013 1:16 am

    Nice animation! It's a good point about how all of Jesus' words are true, unless they don't work or are factually false, in which case they are metaphors. I wish Jesus was funny like you.

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  20. Prplfox

    April 19, 2013 1:19 am

    If it wasn't so morally dubious, I would tell you to have some fun and earn some money making Christian video games 😉

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  21. Discern4

    April 19, 2013 2:49 am

    heh, I know all the lingo, I could write those conversations all day lol (you probably could too haha)
    As for the smallest of seeds, I saw an article the other day trying to tell us that Jesus didn't actually mean the mustard seed was the smallest….it was your typical mental gymnastics and convoluted apologetics trying to excuse Jesus' blunder. I'm glad I no longer have to defend obvious problems in the bible.

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  22. truckcompany

    April 19, 2013 4:14 am

    "it was your typical mental gymnastics"

    Do you mind sharing how they got around it? I find them quite interesting/funny 🙂

    These people remind me of the people that try to explain away obvious errors in Star Trek such as why the Klingons look like humans in the original series. Maybe it was a genetic mutation that struck every single Klingon!!

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  23. Discern4

    April 19, 2013 2:04 pm

    The reasoning was: Jesus was referring to farmers planting herbs, and therefore since orchids aren't herbs, the "smallest seed" just refers to herbs. But if you read the scripture it's hard to really buy the reasoning.
    On top of that, Jesus says the mustard seed grows into a tree big enough for birds to nest in. Not much of a herb, is it?
    For the article, google "answers in genesis seeds of dissent"

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  24. theniceneighbor

    April 19, 2013 6:29 pm

    x2. LOL! Thank you youtube algorithm that determines content I may like based on my video history.

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  25. Discern4

    April 19, 2013 11:35 pm

    I'm not sure! I've got a number of ideas written down that I keep on the back burner. They don't always get made into a video until I see something that triggers it. This one was originally going to be three different scenes of "if the bible were true..", but it was getting too long (and time consuming), so I just did the first scene.

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  26. Discern4

    April 20, 2013 4:56 am

    not to mention small groups of people standing around creaming themselves as they discuss the latest revelations! Although I'd prefer to be at a sci-fi con rather than standing in church surrounded by hypnotized people with their arms raised.

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  27. Tiberius Vetus

    April 25, 2013 12:34 am

    Is God good? Most Christians would say yes. However, God is obviously not omnibenevolent, so I don't think he even deserves the title "god". If God really exists, he only qualified as a miracle working alien. A real omnibenevolent god wouldn't perform miracles, because we would already be living in the best possible world.

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  28. truckcompany

    April 29, 2013 5:30 pm

    Agreed, however they still haven't explained why in TOS, Kahless had no ridges, yet in TNG he did have ridges. Himmm if I try hard enough, I could figure a way to reconcile these mistakes. Maybe Kahless was still in the process of this de-evolution?

    I find it interesting, when trying to reconcile Star Trek, everyone knows you're trying to bend the words to fix an obvious story line error. But when you do that with the bible, you're quite a normal Christian.

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  29. octalogic102

    June 23, 2013 12:24 am

    I really hate when you do something for someone and they say "Thank God" or "praise Jesus" I want to tell them No Bitch thank me!!!! Next time just ask god to come get your ass from sitting on the side of the road!!! but you know that would be rude.

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  30. Glareth

    October 2, 2013 3:09 pm

    These videos crack me up man, nice job! I love your style, the old-school video game vibe is a nice touch.

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  31. 48hrBrz

    February 25, 2014 9:58 pm

    This is powerful…Exactly how the Spirit can move. According to your own revelation and degree of belief of the word it WILL be issued in ur life. Gods wisdom and ways are manifold. "my people perish because of lack of knowledge". Non-believers are deceived in their own reasonings too…
    It only STARTS as a mustard seed & all is possible from there if you work & nurture it like any other seed. Except the Word of Christ is a sure & perfect seed, our hearts&minds are the soil with issues not the seed. It takes "Renewing of your mind"(Rom 12:2). Faith to where u would be astonished if what u speak/pray according to the word does not come to pass. Doesn't grow overnight

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  32. Robert Hughey

    October 28, 2014 5:16 am

    There's always a bit of a distortion that come from worrying about specific labels like "God" or "Jesus" or "Krishna" or any of the others…  You know, you can make it really scientific and find peace in your own understanding of your own awareness.  It's like this: looking at diagrams of the known cosmos, it is really interesting how very similar to the framework of a cluster of neurons connect. Maybe you've seen that?  Or outside of appearance, the bigger question is can you look out at the cosmos and think it even possible that what you're looking at are pieces of a living being of which you not only live inside but also are perhaps an important part of such an entity?  It's not unlike how the various single or simple-celled organisms that call your own body their known universe (probably in fewer words I guess).  To those bacteria and such, you're "God," and you're beyond their ability to comprehend.  That being we all live inside of? Beyond our ability to comprehend… on a larger scale. Whether you believe in it or not is ultimately your own choice, but the system within the one that's produced humanity works miracles beyond the little ones this video describes, but in its own ways and terms (and time) and does require an alignment of belief as well as your real permission, as your Free Choice doesn't get put aside easily.  So you can have huge miracles, but you actually have to believe in something greater than yourself with the ability and permission to actually start working in your life….  It's not a matter of specific faith or in deism in actuality… It's really more about the energies associated with that permission and that belief that there exists something greater than the sum of its parts regarding the cosmos in much the same way that you are more than the sum of your parts, regarding different systems/tissues/cells down to compounds/atoms/elements that make up your "parts."

    Anyway, sorry if this is a TL;DR reply.  I just couldn't wrap my head around this videos need to try to pick apart any belief that you're not actually a part of… as you can't and won't have the same experience of it without the belief.  Again, it's simply a matter of energy… of frequency even… If you resonate belief, because you're a sentient consciousness, your experience of reality is quite different than someone radiating out "oh, that's not how I believe."   In fact, the energy of "that's not how I believe" is kind of a wasted effort actually, as it's not creative but more a redundant statement.  Simply choose what you do believe, even if it's just what you want to believe, and make it come from a place of kindness to your fellow man (whose beliefs are every bit as equal as yours, no matter what foundation, education or experience they come from).  I say all this because this video seems to be made by a real Seeker who is witty and quite a powerful cynical mind, and I sense struggle there, so I feel compelled to share that, hey, just release it even mattering what's the right label, faith or specificity for something that is inherently undefinable…  let it not even matter anymore, but remain open to all possibilities have pieces of Absolute Truth in them…  then start asking the Universe to reveal itself to you.

    She'll listen and will be more than happy to do so. Just keep it polite. She is the whole Universe, after all…

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  33. mark douglas

    December 8, 2014 5:22 am

    Question at 2:10    1John 3:17:
    If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?
    Money to go to a mission trip was not the kind of need implied here but…there is something in the bible about looking out for each others needs. Why does the girl take off with the money bag? Cynical hypocrisy humour 🙂

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  34. Mk101T

    December 20, 2014 11:46 am

    Its not faith as small as a mustard seed … but faith as potent as a mustard seed.
    The term is "Faith of a mustard seed" referring to how potent it is.

    Not that I believe in that happy horseshiot with regard to the bible.
    But I do believe that faith is a real force in this world. And to see its effects … its not what you have have faith in , but just that you have it.
    Its also a very effective means to create negative things … if you have faith in them.

    Its actually the means by which we humans get by in this existence which is governed by past /present / future  (time)
    Without it … people wouldn't do anything without knowing the absolute outcome.
    But of course we use the past to push up that faith O meter.

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  35. Zac Ziller

    January 11, 2015 10:19 am

     According to the bible mustard seeds are the smallest of all seeds on earth. (Mark 4;30-32). Another biblefail. The mustard seed doesn’t grow to be the greatest of all the shrubs on Earth, either.

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  36. Yekkt

    December 23, 2015 9:27 pm

    *Some time ago i broke my leg and after a few weaks it was healed. Isn´t this a great miracle? I am sure my mother had prayed to god to heal it. Glory to you god, praised be the lord Zeus, amen!

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  37. Yekkt

    May 9, 2016 12:22 pm

    Prayer really work, see, i prayed to god that he will never ever answer any prayer ever again some years ago, and see it´s working.

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  38. Classy Gaming Collective

    August 26, 2016 6:54 pm

    Here you go, this explains the mustard seed and mountain moving just fine: https://soundcloud.com/family_gospel_center/kingdom-of-god-part-ii-08-21-2016

    In the Bible, God is called a mountain. Daniel 2:34… is God really a mountain? No. Mountain refers to powers, whether God Jehova, or powers of the spiritual realm. So you don't "believe God" to remove a mountain. You command it just like the video started… by the symbolism was never talking about literal mountains, just like a seed parable never really isn't talking about literal seeds. Mountains in the spirit that we move are principalities and powers of this world which set themselves to be like God, but are not God.

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  39. Nicholas Robinson

    September 27, 2016 1:40 am

    brilliant. Christians forget that they are praying to Him that created the universe. They seem to pray with a veil over them and if the pain slightly goes in their leg for example they start shouting for joy but next week they are right back up at the front asking for prayer for the same thing. brilliant video.

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  40. Nathan Skip

    November 10, 2016 3:55 am

    the way you think is that in order for prayer to work, something needs to poof into existence or that every part of the bible has to be taken literally or that God must do everything and doesn't work through others to fulfill that request. but think on david and Goliath. he did not expect God to do everything, nor did he pray for a big rock to poof out of nowhere. Instead, he threw a small rock at goalith and the giant fell.
    how prayer generally goes is we pray, then do our best, and if we have the right heart and it is God's will, then it will happen. and as for God working through others to give you money, he can do that if need be, look at some christian radio stations. they stay on the air only by donations from listeners. they make it, and it's because people obeyed the tug of God to give. and the fact that people like the music helped out too, of course. it wasn't because lots of bags of money fell out of the sky.
    now at the same time, that doesn't mean that God never leaves things for us to find ( if we are in his will or at a certain church for example, only not exclusive to that ), but in that case, it is not to get rich off of, nor is it to be expected for it to happen all the time. but there are people who say that it does occur often, so anything is possible.
    if we did live in a world where were money always fell after prayer, no christian would need a job and the verse on watching the ant (proverbs 6 : 6) would probably not be in our bible.
    oh, and i can easily see how matthew 17 : 20 is symbolic/hyperbole on account of this is said after jesus had to cast a demon out on account of his disciples did not yet have the faith to do so. but mark 17 : 6 does not have the same context, so now thanks to you and certain stories that i have heard, i have decided it might be possible if one is strong in his relationship with christ and God chooses to reveal it to him. i live in a crazy world, huh? back before August of last year i wouldn't have even considered thinking this way, but now i do.

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  41. socksumi

    September 6, 2017 5:37 pm

    The problem is there is no end of things you can use faith to justify. Faith is not a pathway to reliable knowledge, only to delusion and wishful thinking.

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  42. Ceri Rees

    June 13, 2018 11:35 pm

    If you analyse text in the literal way Discern4 seems to do, you would have to assume that the Christian definition of a miracle is somehow being shouted out from a long way away. This parable is teaching through hyperbole, it was a typical style back then. It wasn't meant to be taken literally the way some of you are.

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  43. Johnhtabuchi Tabuchi

    April 30, 2019 11:27 am

    Guess what nobody has any faith then . Why because nobody can move or heal.. this guess doent know the context

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  44. Johnhtabuchi Tabuchi

    June 11, 2019 10:19 am

    I guess Christian have zero faith then. They cant do anything.. read the context ..

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  45. VictoriaWomer SwingToDivine

    September 3, 2019 4:37 am

    Matthew 12:38-45 …my take on it: We have been too busy asking for finances and miracles that we have lost our faith in God because He hasn't done whatever we ask him to, missing the point that Jesus WAS the miracle! He rose from the dead, and the work is finished! The ONLY way to salvation was made available to all, through repentance and belief in Him. Please, I urge you, don't allow unanswered prayers or unfavorable circumstances crush your faith in God through Jesus the Christ. This life WILL have hard times and we may not get ANYTHING we pray for, BUT count it all joy because eternity with God will be much better! Don't put an emphasis on needing miracles or needing some sort of sign that God is real. Jesus has risen! Repent and believe! Even if you only have faith the size of a mustard seed that Jesus is who He said He was, that is what is important here!

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