Modern Times: Camille Paglia & Jordan B Peterson

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  3. Mario Jorge de Sousa Freire

    November 4, 2019 1:54 pm

    Consider supporting Dr. Jordan Peterson: Direct Support: https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/donate

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  4. paulus11238

    November 4, 2019 5:23 pm

    This was very interesting to listen. Both speakers said what they thought was important, both made their case by providing data. The interesting part in case of Camille Paglia is that she spoke so furiously and fast, that it was clear to me how annoying some things were for her.

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  5. Damir Perkovic

    November 4, 2019 6:54 pm

    I think people forget that Dr. Peterson is exactly that. His opinion is based on fact and data and can safely project based on findings. If you come to him with “ya but I want” it just won’t cut it.

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  7. Narnia Girl

    November 4, 2019 7:59 pm

    Wow. At 36:57 Jordan really NAILS THE BOTTOM-LINE RAGE of feminists: "women whose relationship with men has been seriously pathologized by their experiences with men cannot differentiate between men with a healthy sense of self-confidence and authority and male tyrannical power – they fail to differentiate because all they see is the oppressive male. . .you have to have a LOT of experience with men, and good men, to be able to make that differentiation." Brilliant, Jordan! I have long said that feminists are the walking wounded, the bloodied daughters of an earlier, blinded generation. I want to commend Camille that though her orientation is as a transgender, she can still recognize the need to respect men as men, to actually "stand up for themselves". God bless you, Camille! Camille at 53:10 "civilization is not necessarily about power-grabbing but . . .what is good for the civilization as a whole (role differentiation)". Excellent! What a great, well-balanced discussion — I wish THIS would be shown (and extrapolated upon) in public schools! At 1:03, Camille discusses the possibility that the disappearance of the extended family, with a child being raised in a "hot-house" environment of a nuclear family may not be healthy". This is such a great examination of what is/has gone wrong in our society. Amazing.

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  8. Jenna Marie

    November 5, 2019 12:05 am

    Were women happy back then? or were they making the best of their situation? I don't want to work around women all the time. I don't want to be around men all the time. I want to be with everyone & have it just be not hateful & normal.

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  9. Chick Pea

    November 5, 2019 4:26 am

    Camille Paglia is smart but doesn't know shit about rape culture as it exists. Her denial of it really pisses me off. She would never be a target

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  13. Nate Doherty

    November 5, 2019 9:27 pm

    Camilia talks alot because she's a chick. JP talks specifically. Thus… They represent there points.

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  18. The Chainsaw Squirrel

    November 7, 2019 3:13 am

    My parents are exactly how these two describe: Had us when they were older due to university and other stuff, waited to settle first. Well, now my sister is one of these brats who's so raw and fleshy that she is offended by literally everything and thinks she and everyone else has the right to not be offended.

    Looking at her is like looking at what I could have become. And thank fuck I didn't follow her path (especially since she's older than me).

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  22. Br1cht

    November 7, 2019 9:11 pm

    Dr. Camille Paglia is a Pedo champion and Peterson a.k.a Dr Meth has an odd relationship with his wreck of an daughter.

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  24. Dave Grenier

    November 8, 2019 4:17 am

    "…these people are Philistines..they have no sense of beauty, they have no sense of the aesthetic…" and no sense of humor nor a sense of irony.

    At about 17:45 Paglia describes "virtue signalling." I see this was published in 2017. Was the term not in common use yet? She does not use it. I also note that Peterson's thoughts about the linkage between Post-Modernism and Marxism have evolved towards a better understanding of the relationship since this discussion.

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  25. Karen Dahlquist

    November 8, 2019 5:57 am

    and lets not forget the idea of "entitlement' …..maybe it is part and parcle of the same thing.

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  27. Andy Jarman

    November 8, 2019 6:27 pm

    Peterson has been out of the public eye for eight months now since his wife's cancer meant he had to abandon his book launch. In just that short time all videos with this vivacity and originality seem to have petered out. Peterson played a central role in engaging many in our society in debate and discussion. So much on the shoulders of one man.

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  29. kingofthehamsters

    November 9, 2019 4:59 pm

    This is probably my favourite discussion with Peterson involved. When he meets someone as passionate and hyper verbal as himself.

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  30. Soleil DeParis

    November 9, 2019 7:13 pm

    First time I see and hear her talking and I'm already in love with her. One of my degrees is from Art & Design Academy in France in mid 80's.

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  31. HawkFest

    November 11, 2019 6:06 am

    Yeah I understand what she says about pop art, what some call "post modern impressionism" but which has actually NOTHING to do with impressionism nor art (if only for the narrative you'd develop about it whatever the actual work of "art")… Just paint a canvas in white or some other color, or draw a line, or a dot in the middle, then as long as you have some "Art diploma" or are well connected with certain people and galleries, just make people smoke a huge doober and tell them to imagine whatever mumbo jumbo over it: if what you say about that emptiness you've just "drawn" uses complex wordings that aren't used in normal day-to-day language (or repeats some philosophy theory you've once read somewhere), then it's worth millions… Preposterous. Weak nihilism at its best.

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  33. Healing_ Awakening

    November 11, 2019 11:43 am

    @ 53:00 I think in theory organization isn't about a power grab, but about organizing for the greater whole. But unfortunately when you get personality-disordered people and psychopaths inside the organization, that theory fails.

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  36. Jared Dunlop

    November 12, 2019 6:21 am

    I have yet to ever hear anyone say biology isn't responsible. They disagree with the common institutionalized consensus of the gender binary. So, what people infer and conclude. Others says, it is not so clear cut, and a single xy and xx chromosome alone do not appear to dictate sex. If they did, they do not now. Biology changes, it is still biology. Is anyone in academia saying sex is magically determined by some metaphysical entity? If so, please show me. Not defending the power hungry opportunists of academia but I'll defend post-modern skepticism. Post-modernists I know are all against totalitarianism and someone in the video mentioned post-modernists being not for authority which means they wouldn't support totalitarianism. Anti-authoritarianism or totalitarianism, which one is it? You can't have it both ways.

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