Copyright Abuse Is Killing Youtube

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  1. InfernoPlus

    July 30, 2019 11:47 am

    UPDATE 7/30/2019

    Claim on this video is resolved. They probably yote like a hundred dollars from it though which is irritating.
    Many of the other claims on my channel have been sorted out by muting and cutting parts out of my old videos.
    My newer videos have been largely untouched as I've been very careful about using anything owned by a large company since this all started happening.
    Now we just gotta hope things get better.
    Also Create Media never responded to me. Called it.

    UPDATE 9/5/2019

    Youtube announced some actually good changes recently that should help to at least partly resolve the issues I talked about in this video. Really good to see some progress!

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  2. James Wagner

    September 14, 2019 8:58 am

    its bullshit. i get flagged all the time for in game music.. love getting a 6 hour plus stream flagged because i ran through a cantina…. of load a game and the games theme music plays and yup flagged again… all of my flagged videos where flagged for in game soundtracks. i mean seriously do they expect everyone to play with no game sounds at all…

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  3. DRAGONFLY

    September 14, 2019 9:08 am

    DRAGONFLY
    It's bigger than that, ever since Google took over youtube they found alot of ways to
    put a price on everything that is not being priced like when youtube had a perfectly
    useable video editor, so google took that down and put up a phony bullshit editor
    so they can force you to pay monthly fees for their crappy "wevideo" and some of the
    other junk you'll find on google play store. I was testing them one evening by uploading
    and old sci-fi movie from1950 at 2 am. and as soon as i published it two seconds later
    I received a fake copyright notice from Australia claiming the video, that is bullshit
    I thought, & the video didn't even exist on any youtube channel, I found it in a public domain.
    and after contacting the claimer of the video, they tell me they never filed any such claim.
    several months later I found the movie at a youtube website with ads on it. they also stole
    some of my music playlists while they run ads on every song. so to put this in a nutshell,
    Google has found a way to steal your videos by closing your channel. I have seen google
    charge 1.99 cents for old western movies that nobody would want to watch. while all
    along they encourage you to make more videos while they funnel your monetized monies
    into their own pockets. In other words, they have been stealing ads from creators for a long time.
    and is as easy as shuffling the cards, while they make fools out of all to work for free.
    It's the biggest internet scam on the planet. That's how they make their money.
    They steal your ideas, by shutting you down with fake copyright claims then run stolen ads.
    There are several class-action lawsuits against Google for breach of contract and privacy issues,
    I suggest anyone with a beef should signup for these million and billion-dollar lawsuits now active.

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  4. DRAGONFLY

    September 14, 2019 9:13 am

    Google is scamming the users by shutting you down and stealing all of your work
    including all of your playlist so they can play their stolen ads on the stolen material
    that they get for free by all the creators who believe in something for nothing.

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  5. Peter Kerr

    September 14, 2019 10:55 am

    I have some old videos of my kids and dogs which I used my brother's original songs from his self produced cd. for background music. One day I got a notice that the music was removed because of copyright….I had no clue what to do about that or who claimed the music.

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  6. Sera - Marie

    September 15, 2019 3:21 am

    You left out Gus Johnson. He made a video about the movie Bohemian Rhapsody and they claimed even though he did not play a note or use the any of the lyrics

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  7. Anthony Ashdown

    September 15, 2019 6:03 am

    Could have done without the use of the word "faggot", regardless of the context. You wouldn't use the N word. This is no different. It's 2019 dude.

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  8. tattooed grandma

    September 15, 2019 7:17 am

    as an extremely small creator…I don't care about copyright stuff. I had one video claimed on my channel. I am not monetized nor will I ever be even if I get a huge audience. Youtube is not a career but a hobby. To rely on your channel for your lively hood is on you bud. You do have valid points .

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  9. David Miller

    September 15, 2019 9:57 am

    Umm how about just not using copyrighted music. This is why it's copyrighted. So you piss and moan about it hurting YouTubers, using an artists music without permission is hurting the artist. And really you had to use word faggot?

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  10. Rasmus Conradsson

    September 15, 2019 10:22 am

    Seriously, youtube should handle this in house, and invalid claims should be fined. Where loss of rev + extra goes to the creator and a small part to youtube.
    The monitisation should not be imediatly moved to the claimer, but rather paused and after the dispute it should go to the one who deserv it.
    Say i make a feature length movie, 2hours, i own everything, but in one of the scenes faint some one played a song i dident notice (maby a ringtone) it was 1-6 seconds long, now the company will claim 100% of the profit for work they dident do, and if u mute the audio or change the work its ruined. itd be fair if they can claim a portion of the claim. So, if they claim 1 sekond in a 100 second video, they get 1% off the add rev, OR even better there is worked out a royalty plan, one time pay or monthly or just % of the rev. between the parties and youtube as an impartial third party as a judge.

    These claims have allways been bogus, i remember corriddor digital had this problem a few years ago, think it was the imperial march from starwars and it was a few sekonds.
    The idea of giving companies rights to few notes or even words/word combos, so that you can own the language if u make a song long enugh and say every possiable sentence you can own everything, its scary as f. And ontop just letting the companies judge if the claim is valid or take them to court is fd up.

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  11. Code Blue

    September 15, 2019 11:47 am

    I bet most of these claim companies dont even have any rights to the copyright, Imagine how much money you could make just making fake claims to as many youtube videos as possible.

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  12. Gaerek Xenos

    September 15, 2019 12:52 pm

    Title is a little off — "Copyright Abuse" is a bit ambiguous and sorta… points the opposite direction where it sounds like people using media without permissions is the issue… "Copyright Claim Abuse" is more on-point with what is being said (and is what is said in the video)

    Anyhow~ I appreciate the work you've done for this video. Thank you for bringing attention to the issue as it is very much needed

    I can somewhat understand why the companies might not like certain videos and want them taken down since they might "taint" the image of the work that they've created. It's one of the reasons why I hesitate to push through with creating some of my own works and go and push it out into the world. It's mildly unpleasant to have your work being made into a "joke" of a sort if you're invested in said work and your intention with the work wasn't to be funny. But that doesn't justify filing copyright claims for doing so at all, even if the creator's feelings are being hurt for their work being used as meme material, etc. This actually falls in line with the fourth point listed for the Fair Use criteria at 21:00, somewhat

    Going off of the criteria for Fair Use, I feel like the biggest questions that need to be asked are really these:: "Does the creation of the work add some sort of value to the media that is being borrowed/referenced?" (points 2 and 5 in the video) and "Does the creation of the work enrich Society/Culture with its creation using the reference/borrowed material" (variation of point 2). The example my professor presented us for Fair Use was Aqua's Barbie Girl (video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A) where Mattel filed a claim against the group/song. I think he mentioned the claim was dismissed under Fair Use as the song was a parody and enriched society in a some way…? Don't quote me on that. In any case, memes generally fulfill the requirements for those two questions

    In any case, Copyright, Fairuse, Patents (similar, but completely different), etc. are all really messy since the laws are different by country as well as filing for all of those things, though there are agreements or something between countries to sorta help with some consistencies or something…? And I'm not a lawyer or an expert on any of that, so I can't really say much of anything about the subject that help either. Politics is a messy business =-=;;

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  13. ErikOhgr

    September 15, 2019 7:23 pm

    Hypothetically speaking, how difficult would it be to turn the tables on one of these companies and issue a claim/strike against one of their properties? How difficult would it be to turn the system right back against them, especially if you can make it nigh-impossible for them to contact you, the way they do?

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  14. Cars Simplified

    September 15, 2019 7:41 pm

    The music industry doing this makes me think that the best approach is to no longer use major label music; people will not hear it and if they don't know it exists, they won't buy it. Even if it is fair use, don't help them by using even a second of their content. Even if it only prevents one sale, it's worth it.

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  15. John Doe

    September 16, 2019 12:16 am

    We need a new youtube that is not subjected to copyright laws or we will end up with repeat or random videos like this

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  16. wolcek

    September 16, 2019 5:14 am

    Why not fighting back by doing the same to these companies? Claim some of their videos. Ask some friends to help, do it in turns.

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  17. H. Memo Rhein

    September 16, 2019 6:49 am

    Completely understanding your frustration and being hit by many claims I could clear up a lot of isssues in this video and help to understand this incredible wrong ConentID system of Youtube. The contentID system should help to clear rights used in any video. Rights in each video are devided by Video and Audio. Audio itself is devided by Copyright ( Composition ) and Performing rights (Artist). This is where a lot of misuse and misinterpretation starts. But the reason for is YouTube itself. Anybody claiming any rights has to upload the Video and / or the Audio onto the contentID Server.YouTube itself will do the checking for the "content owner"! Unfortunately the YT system is not right – and even happy if there is a claim because then they dont have to pay out the monetization part. I would have to clear up much more but this would take longer than the video. Most important: a lot of YouTuber ( and also Game developer ) are using Classical Music because it is socalled royalty and copyright free. This is wrong .. since the difference between Copyright control and performance rights recognition i significant. Many copyright&royalty rights free offerings are not free, at least not in performing rights. But now comes the weirdest part: There are many companies offering this music as royalty free to YouTuber just changing the name of the Orchestra or performer since they think nobody will here the difference and YT doesnt either. So on many of the audio claims is not only one claiment but up to 8 companies sitting – informed by YouTube. One of the those companies is for example Premiumbeat – a respected company ?? give me a break. Much more important is the fact that UMG, SME and other major companies dont even have to proof that they have the rights they claim. In our circumstance SME is sitting on a minimum of 800 Tracks belonging to me , produced by me, used for my own pretty expensive videos and SME is sitting there and claiming .. since there is 2 claiments YouTube doesnt pay anyone .. My Counterclaims explaining the full scale are even disregarded by YouTube telling me that SME ensures them to have the rights. Nobody is asking Sony for the contract? And this is to the benefit of YOUTUBE. Anybody who wants to know more can contact me any time ..

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  18. Ini chan

    September 16, 2019 9:56 am

    Fanart, Fansongs AND AMVs made me search up shows, games ect. that I had not looked beforehand at at all. Even WITH knowing trailers or advertisment of these before.

    Because these did not seem interessting to me.
    The Fanart, fansongs and AMVs made me MORE curious and even showed me a ton of things I ended LIKING then advertisment.

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  19. Atilla Lifeson

    September 16, 2019 11:35 am

    Sorry to break it to you but I don't have to watch past @3:23 anymore since that shows me enough to tell you the following (btw thanks for your candor by showing your monetization page):

    You can't expect to make money with the work of other people or companies. Period. There is no discussion about it. Sure you can use it for creative purposes and even build up a reputation and a fanbase that way (that's called "fair use") but you CAN'T and you are NOT ALLOWED to generate money off other peoples and companies works and publications. I'm working in the film- and media industry and I know too well that if you want to use media that is not your own YOU HAVE TO OBTAIN A LICENSE FOR IT. PERIOD.

    Well, there is no reason game developers, studios or other companies would give you a license for a specific type of media. Let's say there is, since for example a lot of pop-songs are used in feature films.. But guess what: those studios producing those films are NEGOTIATING LICENSES with the creators and their labels.

    Now to your case. You are totally right. You are bitching about this topic like gazillion of other "YouTubers" do. But this is how the industry works and I'm glad it works this way. A year ago some gaming guys here on YouTube (the channel is reaching 100K subscribers right now) took my wallpaper Art without messaging me, without giving me any kind of credit in the video, without any kind of compensation. No, a stupid fcking link in the description doesn't cut it and only 5% of the viewers even consider opening up the full description.

    This frustrated me immensely and I filed a copyright claim straight on with all kinds of evidence that I'm the one who created that piece of (shitty) art. The video got disabled almost immediately the next days. SUDDENLY those guys started to contact me on all different kind of social media channels if I could please allow them to use my artwork. You know what I did? I gave them a real gentle "fuck you" (I didnt say that literally but you know what I mean). I'm glad there are copyright strikes and it's working REALLY well. This mechanism WILL NOT kill YouTube. It kills lazy YouTubers who are unwilling to pay license fees or obtain licenses or allowance for art and media they don't have the copyright for.

    Do the average viewers get annoyed by that? No, actually not because they wouldn't even hear about it if people like you weren't "bitching" about it (for which you of course have every right to do so!)

    But if you want to make this "hobby" your full time job then you need to start realizing that you have to play by the rules (which by the way are also relevant for your own publications – or would like me to rip off your videos and recreate something else out of it and generate money, especially if I'd be able to generate more than you?).

    I know sometimes laws can be ridiculous but copyright is a serious issue and shouldn't be taken lightly. Also there are plenty of other ways to compensate for your time you have put in and try to get a few bucks together to keep it running.

    The problem is actually the attitude. Nobody is forcing you to do these videos. You decided to go this path and you know exactly that this kind of business is hard (but rewarding in many ways). Just because you are making some funny videos on a video platform doesn't mean you are eligible to be paid for. That's up to your followership if they think you are worth the money or not.

    All in all a very stupid and lazy approach to a topic corporations and even individuals in the media industry have to face day to day since decades. (Sorry for being offensive in this last sentence but it somehow makes me really unhappy how many influential YouTubers always like to blame others instead of doing their own research and play by the "current" rules and laws.)

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  20. greenspiraldragon

    September 16, 2019 5:00 pm

    Fair use creative license. Fair use a provision of copyright law that allows the use of a copyrighted work without permission from the copyright holder under specific circumstances. News reporting, teaching, and parody are all examples of activities that could qualify as fair use

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  21. Raymond Jobborn

    September 16, 2019 7:36 pm

    Have you ever thought that ripping off someone else's work and touting it as your own is maybe not the best way of earning a living…?

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  22. Bryan

    September 17, 2019 4:02 am

    It is nothing short of racketeering by organized crime. Why are these big companies using contracted shell companies?

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  23. ferociousgumby

    September 17, 2019 5:21 am

    I get like ten views per video. I've had a copyright claim for a Christmas light display video. I was walking along narrating, "oohh, look at that!", etc. I walked by a loudspeaker with some Xmas music coming out of it, but thought nothing of it. Turned out it was Bing Crosby singing White Christmas. For that 3 or 4 seconds of White Christmas, I was dinged for copyright. I also had an actual STRIKE for a video I could not remember at all. It had a silly title and was only a couple of minutes long and likely got the usual handful of views. It must have been a very old one that had been up for, probably, years. I had no way of actually learning from this as I was given no information about it, and could not even find out what I did wrong because the video was GONE. To get back into my channel, I had to go to Copyright School (no, I am not making this up!) and watch an incredibly silly video which did not seem serious, then pass an exam with four questions on it. I was told in no uncertain terms that if I did this two more times, my 1500+ videos from 2013-19 (many of them irreplaceable family history, including people who have passed) would be gone forever. The whole purpose of this was to scare the hell out of me, or maybe just steal my enjoyment of what had been a fun hobby. Now suddenly it was scary as shit. I wonder why they want to blow up a tiny anthill like me. I am NO threat to anyone. I am not monetized but have been careful to remove soundtracks where I've had a copyright claim, and now I wonder if I should've just left them alone.

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  24. David Teer The Backyard Ufologist

    September 17, 2019 5:39 pm

    Yes I am a small channel just using a few seconds intros on songs almost no matter they want to copyright claim me. I only have 262 subscribers. I’ve had more. The subscribers say they didn’t unsubscribe and they resub. Some I cannot get in touch with so they don’t even know. Notification bell gets unchecked. We did a test My wife did a comment on one of my videos and it got deleted. I have no idea how that happened. People say they have problems at times trying to subscribe and they do t get notified at times. Weird stuff goes on. I am a ufo/paranormal channel just showing what’s in our own backyard. David The Backyard Ufologist. Anyway I am leaning a lot about Algorithms and underhanded stuff they are playing. They seem to want to shut us up and disarm us. Almost like that man did in Germany in the 30’s!
    Anyway great video you have a lot To lose. Thanks for your video.

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  25. Jeremy Barlow

    September 17, 2019 5:42 pm

    You know what the problem is? No one has sued Google and those who are abusing the YouTube claim system in federal court with a claim under the antitrust laws that Alphabet is conspiring with false claimants to steal the creative works of those who are legitimately creating something new. Fair use is not a defense to videos you are monetizing. In fact, the commercial aspect of its use is one of the tenants that destroys a fair use argument. However, in the case when someone is claiming that which is not their property, and when Alphabet is allowing them to steal, the anti-trust argument likely defeats their contractual shield baked into their terms of use agreement.

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  26. Jeremy Barlow

    September 17, 2019 5:56 pm

    The process to resolve a copyright strike is to file a counter-notice with the DMCA agent at YouTube then if the claimant persists in their claim be prepared to defend yourself in federal court for a violation of copyright law. If you did not violate copyright law then you will win. If you did violate copyright law you will lose and you will be forced to pay the prevailing party in the lawsuit. Copyright is a sword, not a shield and if you have allegedly infringed, then the wronged party has every right to attack you. If you have not used other parties material without a license, then that is an entirely different story, but unless you have licenses from a lot of copyright owners, it is obvious from this video that you are routinely using other people's copyrighted material without proper licenses, and talking over another person's material does not constitute fair use. Merely transforming material in some trivial way as you did with the King of the Hill content is not fair use. Any effort to earn money from supposed fair use is actually proof that you are not using the material as contemplated by the fair use exceptions contemplated by the federal courts when they carved out exceptions to copyright which preserved first amendment limitations on copyright law.

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  27. Xander Ex

    September 17, 2019 10:30 pm

    You know what sucks even more? Some people copy ENTIRE videos without credit and don't get copyrighted. Heck! Someone literally copied an animation someone worked hard on AND put it as an ad on YouTube. Did that get ANY copyright strikes?! NO! This is why YouTube is starting to become bullcrap

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  28. Sean Poyser

    September 18, 2019 4:27 am

    This is a case where I feel "turnabout is fair play" should come into play. We need to set up a network of TIFP accounts and just start claiming retarded number of videos as our own. Then when google steps in and asks "Why"?. Tell them. Include all the data gathered against the false accusators and get THEM taken down.

    It's like guns. You never gonna eliminate them from culture so you might as well fight back with them when something is moroethically unjust.

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  29. Grimm Reaper002

    September 18, 2019 5:57 am

    What every youtuber (big and small) needs to do is band together and hire some of the best lawyers to combat these trigger happy companies!

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  30. Atomik Laser

    September 18, 2019 10:28 am

    In reality, you're actually PROMOTING their products, they should be thanking YOU! For, without anyone promoting their shit, they don't sell shit.. rude, greedy ignorant fckrs get nothing from me..

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  31. Lainey Wright

    September 18, 2019 5:23 pm

    YouTuber channels… Google doesn't care, and YouTube; it controls content. Haven't you noticed the trend to manage communications between all who frequent YouTube? Oh, of course, you can still share to FaceBook, Instagram, Reddit, Blogger, etc. but not P2P. I see that as their way of stopping communications during a crisis and/or documenting said events. It is more about controlling the worldwide freedom of speech. Wait until they make it criminal to scoop the news media.

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  32. silhouettegundam

    September 18, 2019 6:33 pm

    I feel like there is a real opportunity for a law firm to aggressively go after these copyright claim mills. I'm sure most of the time if presented with a lawsuit, they will back down and settle.

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  33. Margo Cargo

    September 19, 2019 12:04 am

    Some YouTubers like CDawgva are getting copyright strikes because of music that isn’t even in his videos Very stinky 🙁

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  34. M.A Bukhari

    September 19, 2019 2:45 am

    Wow. Like wow. I have nothing to say but what the hell is wrong with society of today. People love screwing over other people…

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  35. No Comment

    September 19, 2019 11:43 pm

    What did you expect? Any created music is copyrighted, Royalty free music can be copyrighted if someone plays their cards right

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  36. Parmesan Killa

    September 20, 2019 3:27 pm

    How about instead of copyright killing things with copyrighted material it kills copyrighted material that is being falsely claimed, like you know

    HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

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  37. Chris Wilson

    September 21, 2019 7:21 am

    Is there some reason why content providers can't get together and class action the F out of YT and scammers?

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  38. Chris Wilson

    September 21, 2019 7:47 am

    Wouldn't it be awesome if all YT content providers being ripped off by YT apathy shut their channels down for N weeks or longer?

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  39. Miguel Angel

    September 21, 2019 6:56 pm

    Despacito part is stupid. That's part of the spanish language. I'm going to upload a video saying despacito multiple times.

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  40. Paul Snelling

    September 22, 2019 9:55 pm

    Bit late (Goes along the same lines as this), but: Take-Two & 2K went after 1 of their biggest fans/supporters, by copyrighting his videos. (& a few other things [Mentioned below])

    (Hence the reason there are more people boycotting Borderlands 3)

    (IGN & certain other gaming "news" groups took the side of the publishing companies & acted like propaganda networks, instead of finding out what actually was happening (IGN admitted a bit later (Even after the reputation damage was done), that they didn't get both sides of the story ; even though if they'd actually wanted to: they can get the other side, by contacting people SupMatto knew))

    (To be specific on the outcome: Take-Two quite literally intimidated SupMatto by first sending Private Investigators (Like how they went after modders relating to the Rockstar branch of the company (Since: Take-Two is the parent company of both 2K Gaming & Rockstar Gaming)) & by targeting his Discord account/server + Twitch account & his YouTube channel (He manually disabled his Twitter account) (Essentially: this goes along the lines of how Major/large companies tend to get their way, regardless of morality))

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  41. borderline

    September 26, 2019 6:53 pm

    You wanna know how fucked it is? I had written permission to upload a track by an artist I'd been chatting to, who had no YouTube presence. As soon as it hit 10K it got claimed. Not by him, in fact he tried to help me dispute it by writing to them also.

    That was 2010.

    That claim, is still fucking there.

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  42. endless tidepods

    September 29, 2019 2:36 pm

    The definition of corporational skim heads.
    Fucking comie basterds shiting on my main man.
    All love go's to you inferno😙💗💗
    Thats something they cant take

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  43. Disneyfan82

    October 1, 2019 10:37 pm

    SME blocked a Disney Halloween special for who knows what reason when they have nothing to do with Disney, so what gives them a right to ruin everything for Youtubers trying to watch the classics? How dare YouTube allow them to do this on content they do not own. I hate copyright control freaks ruining people's lives over stupid things.

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